Rich was a wonderful, gracious host and we had a very stimulating and exciting conversation; some things serious, some things very funny. Hopefully the audience liked it, and I would encourage anyone to view episodes on this podcast. And he gave me ample time to talk about my book "A Spiritual Passage" about hiking the Appalachian Trail when I was 72 - the hardest thing I ever did when nobody was shooting at me! Enjoy the podcast!